Sep. Rally, October Continues or Crash? Is This Bull Still Young?

As the market hit new highs, many expected a correction in September or October. But clearly, we just went through yet another bullish month. Historically, September has been the worst month for $S&P 500(.SPX)$.

The fact is: this September, $S&P 500(.SPX)$ gained +3.11%, $NASDAQ(.IXIC)$ +5.39%. $NVIDIA(NVDA)$ hit fresh all-time highs, $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ and $Alibaba(BABA)$ jumped over 30%, while $Apple(AAPL)$ staged a big rebound. Other star stocks included $Oklo Inc.(OKLO)$ , $Opendoor Technologies Inc(OPEN)$ , and $TeraWulf Inc.(WULF)$ .

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So what about October?

Historically, October has been red in 10 of the last 15 years, making it its weakest month on record. Yet last year, after a strong first-half rally, October only saw a minor pullback—SPX down just 0.99%. This year SPX is up 13.25% YTD, still far behind last year’s 20% YTD by September.

J.P. Morgan highlighted in a September report that the stock market could have “explosive” upside potential in October and advised investors to buy the dips.

Another major driver for the bull case: rate cuts. According to CME FedWatch Tool, there’s a 90% probability of a 25bps rate cut in October.

Still, some expect October to follow a “gap down, grind higher” script. The first trading days of both August and September were big red days—will October repeat the same pattern?

Howard Marks wrote in his latest memo:

“Investors are inherently optimistic. They must be—otherwise they wouldn’t hand their money over in hopes of getting more in return. Stock investors in particular, I believe, are deeply rooted optimists.”

  1. Do you consider yourself an optimist?

  2. Are you betting on October to keep rallying, just a small pullback, or a bigger correction?

  3. In September, did you catch any of the big movers—TSLA, AAPL, NVDA, BABA?

  4. Have you managed to beat the market this year?

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  • Shyon
    ·2025-09-30
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    In September I stayed cautious but still caught parts of the rally. The market defied seasonal weakness, and $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ and $Apple(AAPL)$ showed how fast sentiment can turn. I didn’t grab every big mover, but I did benefit from the strength, and overall I’ve managed to stay ahead of the index this year with selective entries and exits.

    For October, I know it’s historically weak, but I lean a bit optimistic. With the Fed likely to cut rates and liquidity still supportive, I expect more of a “gap down, grind higher” move rather than a sharp correction. Volatility may spike early, but unless macro data disappoints, dips could still be worth buying.

    Still, I’m keeping flexible. Markets have priced in plenty of good news, so I won’t chase highs blindly. My plan is to lock profits when rallies stretch and add exposure only on meaningful pullbacks. Optimistic—but disciplined—sums up my approach.

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  • 1PC
    ·2025-09-30
    📈 September surprised with a rally[Surprised]: SPX +3.11%, NASDAQ +5.39%, NVDA hit ATH, TSLA & BABA +30%, AAPL rebounded. October’s history is shaky—red 10 of last 15 years—but rate cut hopes and dip-buying could fuel upside. I’m optimistic: expecting a pullback, then rally[Chuckle]. Caught BABA’s breakout in Sept. Not sure if I’ve beaten the market YTD, but I’m hopeful by Dec 2025. As Howard Marks said, investors are optimists—and I’m one of them.[Grin] 🧭.@JC888 @Barcode @Shyon @Aqa @koolgal @DiAngel
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  • MHh
    ·2025-09-30
    I consider myself cautiously optimistic. I buy ETFs to reduce the volatility risk and yet with good chance of at least mirroring market returns. I agree that all investors have to be optimistic otherwise they would have taken profit or not put their money into the market at all.


    I expect a small correction in October as people take profit but also expecting a potential rate cut that would send the bull going. The bull is still young all because there is still Penney of room for rate cuts to happen this year and the next.


    I already have AAPL and recently bought UnitedHealth. Otherwise, I tend to have ETFs like SMH and VTI. I believe there is more room for rally in the HK and China markets so I have been buying the dips in the HK market like haidilao and popmart.


    I think I have beaten the market this year with my combination of ETFs and some good performing stocks like taking profit for maogeping as well. This should be a good year for most as it is hard to go wrong.
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  • Cadi Poon
    ·2025-09-30
    從歷史上看,十月一直是紅色的過去15年中的10年,使其成爲有記錄以來最疲軟的一個月。然而去年,在上半年強勁反彈之後,10月份僅出現了小幅回調-SPX剛剛下跌0.99%.今年SPX年初至今上漲了13.25%,仍遠低於去年9月份年初至今20%的漲幅。

    摩根大通在9月份的報告中強調,10月份股市可能有“爆炸性”上漲潛力,並建議投資者逢低買入.

    牛市的另一個主要驅動因素:降息根據CME FedWatch工具,有一個90%概率10月份降息25個基點。

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  • TimothyX
    ·2025-09-30
    隨着市場創下新高,許多人預計9月或10月將出現回調。但顯然,我們剛剛經歷了又一個看漲的月份。從歷史上看,九月是最糟糕的月份$標普500(.SPX)$.

    事實是:今年9月,$標普500(.SPX)$獲得+3.11%,$納斯達克(.IXIC)$+5.39%.$英偉達(NVDA)$再創歷史新高,$特斯拉(TSLA)$和$阿里巴巴-SW(BABA)$跳過去30%,而$蘋果(AAPL)$上演了一波大反彈。其他明星股票包括在內$奧克洛公司(OKLO)$,$Opendoor Technologies Inc(OPEN)$,和$TeraWulf Inc.(WULF)$.

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  • Success88
    ·2025-09-30
    Seem like momentum slow down. Just beware that might be a technical bearish coming
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  • WanEH
    ·2025-09-30
    我觉得10 月份美股更多是 小幅回调 /震荡(5–8% 以内),然后等待三季报和美联储会议指引。如果通胀或利率预期恶化,就要防范 更大回调(10–15%),但目前并非主流预期。

    策略思路偏向逢回调布局龙头(科技/AI/消费稳定)。谨慎高位不宜追高,可加一点防御板块(医疗、必需消费、黄金) @Tiramisu2020

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  • TheStrategist
    ·2025-09-30
    Uptober baby!!
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2025-10-01
    Being a balanced trader is the best⚖️ Watch the market and react accordingly so that we don’t miss the 🐂 or get caught in the 🐻
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  • ECLC
    ·2025-10-01
    Possibly October will repeat the same pattern as September with "gap down, grind higher". Watch for trading opportunities.
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  • 10月保持謹慎
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  • Kekemon
    ·2025-10-01
    Is due for correction.
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  • highhand
    ·2025-09-30
    I'm an optimist and I'm not a gambler. I don't bet UP or DOWN in Oct. I am prepared to trade in all market conditions and depending on my holdings. When UP, sell overvalued investments or take profit from trades. When DOWN, buy undervalued counters to add to my positions, look for good trades, or even do nothing when I'm fully invested.
    With this approach, I can beat the market easily..
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  • He Man
    ·2025-09-30
    wait n see
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  • CryptoTamilianz
    ·2025-10-01
    I believe October is due for a good run up. Monies will be coming in since FTX is distributing what it owes to creditors and people are looking to get in before the year ends. With FED's pending 2 rate cuts, looks like a good time to enter slowly.
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  • Rainy777
    ·2025-10-01
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    Current stock prices are divorced from reality and could drop if something bad happens. For example, $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ car sales are falling fast yet the stock is up based on a promise of robots and taxis, even though they only have a few taxis operatinh and have sold zero robots to date.
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  • 北极篂
    ·2025-09-30
    霍华德·马克斯的这句话,我非常认同。回顾自己的投资心态,其实我算是偏乐观的人。否则,我不可能在市场波动的时候依然愿意把资金放进去,毕竟股市从来不是“无风险”的地方。乐观让我相信,短期的波动背后总有长期的机会,这也是坚持投资的核心动力。


    至于10月的行情,我的判断是会有回调,但幅度不会太大。过去几年,10月往往是市场寻找方向的月份,大跌的概率低于市场想象。结合目前利率环境趋稳、科技板块依然热度不减,我更倾向于“震荡加小幅回调”,而不是大规模崩盘。


    9月份,我确实在重点跟踪几只大公司。TSLA波动很大,消息面刺激频繁,适合短线操作;AAPL受新品发布和服务收入增长支撑,走势相对稳健;NVDA毫无疑问依旧是AI故事的核心,基本面亮眼;BABA则更多受政策和宏观经济影响。相比之下,我更愿意在NVDA和AAPL上持有,因为趋势更清晰,风险相对可控。


    至于今年的整体表现,我不能说自己大幅跑赢市场,但至少算是稳稳跟上节奏,没有被过度回调拖累。某些板块比如半导体和科技股给我带来了不错的回报,这让我更坚定保持适度乐观的态度。
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  • ELI_59
    ·2025-10-01
    Hoping to buy the dips in October since it has been red in 10 of the last 15 years.
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  • Wakandaaaaa
    ·2025-10-01
    1. Optimist or not?
    I lean realistic optimist — I expect volatility, but over time markets tend to grind higher.
    2. October outlook?
    Most likely a rally continuation with shallow pullbacks—unless macro surprises (Fed, jobs, geopolitics) trigger a sharper correction.
    3. September movers?
    The big trades were TSLA swings, AAPL dip-buy chatter, NVDA’s momentum, and BABA’s China policy bounce. Even if you didn’t catch them all, just one could’ve been a strong win.
    4. Beating the market YTD?
    If you were overweight tech/AI or played the rebounds smartly, beating the S&P has been doable. But a broad, index-style portfolio is still tough to outperform consistently.
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  • Success88
    ·2025-10-01
    Will continue to grow
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