East Rising, West Declining? How Did Buffett Warn of Trade Deficits in US?

Recently, more voices have discussed the idea of “East rising, West declining.”

Today, People's Bank of China (PBoC) unveiled 10 comprehensive monetary policy measures across three categories. China stocks opened high and then closed down.

  • Quantitative measures: Includes actions like reserve requirement ratio (RRR) cuts to increase medium- to long-term liquidity and ensure abundant market liquidity.

  • Price-based measures: Involves lowering key policy interest rates, reducing rates on structural monetary tools, and cutting public housing fund loan rates.

  • Structural tools: Introducing and strengthening targeted monetary tools to support innovation in science and technology, boost consumption, and expand inclusive finance.

In 2003, Warren Buffett told a story about two fictional islands: “Squanderville” and “Thriftville.” $Berkshire Hathaway(BRK.B)$

Thriftville worked hard, exported food to Squanderville, and in return received Squanderville’s bonds.

Over time, Thriftville accumulated so much debt that it eventually stopped holding bonds and started acquiring land — shifting economic sovereignty without a war, simply through purchases. Buffett used this story to warn about the dangers of persistent U.S. trade deficits.

Back in 2003, there was no real “Thriftville.” But listening to this story again in 2025, should we start taking the “East rising, West declining” narrative more seriously?

If the shift from West to East is real, then isn't the key question when it will happen?

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  • MHh
    ·2025-05-07
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    特朗普知道贸易逆差,因此通过实施关税,他希望创造一个新的全球秩序。他并不像许多人想象的那么疯狂。真正的交易破坏者是这是否会成功。他可能永远不会想到中国会报复,不像他第一个总统任期。他不想要一场贸易战,让他自己的经济遭受损失。他只是想强迫各方与他谈判。我认为从西向东的转移肯定会发生,但不会在未来5年甚至10年内发生。只要其他国家与美国合作,只要美国有更多的世界站在美国一边,就像许多国家与美国达成协议一样,这些国家与美国的贸易比中国多,美元仍然是首选储备货币,这种转变就不会发生。中国股市将上涨,特别是如果与特朗普的会谈取得成功,但我相信会谈将是短暂的,因为投资者对中国市场的信心往往不如美国。
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  • Mrzorro
    ·2025-05-07
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    從西向東的轉變也許有一天會發生,但我認爲不會來得那麼快,至少還要再過幾年。中國股票可能是一項不錯的投資,但目前不適合我。
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    • koolgal
      感謝😍😍😍分享您的寶貴見解
      2025-05-08
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  • SG 88
    ·2025-05-08
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    特朗普清楚地表明,失敗的結局將是美國及其公民。
    他們是唯一會承擔關稅成本的人,而不是中國,不是加拿大,也不是其他國家。
    特朗普只認爲他作爲美國總統的職位是重中之重。
    想象一下這樣一個世界,每個美國公民都買不到他們想要的東西,而只能買到他們能負擔得起的東西?
    通貨膨脹會螺旋式上升,商品會變得可怕和昂貴,美國只能在自己的州內進行貿易?
    從經濟學和社會學的角度來看,這都是殘酷的事實。
    世界上沒有人會從貿易戰中受益,更不用說任何戰爭了。
    獨裁不會進行戰鬥,它只會惡化國家間的雙邊關係,只會帶來全球衰退。
    @Blinkfans @koolgal @MillionaireTiger @JC888 @BillionaireN
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    • koolgal
      感謝您分享您的寶貴見解🥰🥰🥰
      2025-05-08
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  • Zarkness
    ·2025-05-08
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    It’s only a bargaining chip , the real move is not in the creating of jobs , it’s the money that count ! Don’t believe ? If you can really find the data before trade war and during trade war and after trade deals, u will see where the money goes to!! Just check trump and associated and see what’s happening to their accts !!
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    • Zarkness
      It’s your good teaching 🥰🥰🥰
      2025-05-08
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    • koolgal
      Thanks for sharing your valuable insights 😍😍😍
      2025-05-08
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  • 1PC
    ·2025-05-07
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    if the shift from West to East were to happen and When [Thinking]....let's seek the magic crystal 🔮.... [Thinking] I see .... 🤔....some signs appearing..... Ah Ha.... by the end of the Next 🐉🐲 cycle [Smart]..... in the meantime, shift to the HK markets when opportunities arises 🙏
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    • koolgal
      I would like to have the magic crystal please 🥰🥰🥰
      2025-05-08
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  • koolgal
    ·2025-05-08
    🌟🌟🌟A strengthening HKD appears to be a positive sign for the region, both as a marker of renewed capital flows and as an indicator of broader investor confidence in Asian, especially Chinese markets.

    With a supporting backdrop of pro growth policies, innovation driven sectors and increased capital flow, I believe that the China stocks rally has the potential to continue.

    However it is important to remain mindful of global economic uncertainties and the inherent risks in a market transitioning from a period of weakness to optimism.

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  • vuvence IX
    ·2025-05-09
    The west has been around for a very long time, eg: Greeks & Romans. The west, although geographic is more of a blueprint for co-existence. If the current manifestation of the west is in decline, why is the rest of the world falling over each other to immigrate to the following countries
    USA
    Australia
    UK
    Canada
    New Zealand

    why those countries???

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  • vuvence IX
    ·2025-05-09
    The West is in decline has been around for years, however why is the rest of the world falling over itself to immigrate to the following countries.
    USA
    UK
    Australia
    Canada
    New Zealand

    Why???

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  • GoodLife99
    ·2025-05-08
    Talks of a U.S. recession have been ongoing for quite some time. While many hope it won’t happen, the risk still looms—especially if the planned tariffs go into effect. That could be one reason why Warren Buffett is holding onto such a large amount of cash—possibly preparing for a market downturn or better investment opportunities.

    It’s no surprise that Eastern economies are starting to rise, even if only modestly for now. Their momentum may strengthen in the near term, though some doubts remain.

    U.S. inflation could spike again, which might lead people to reconsider non-essential spending—like vacations—as daily costs continue to climb.

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  • Success88
    ·2025-05-08
    China and US are big countries and lot of people. The shift is coming one day so that is no surprise with shift from west to east. As a investor we need to focus good company and invest in them.
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  • Star in the Sky
    ·2025-05-08
    nothing much will happen.. markets down markets up... we will used to it when it happens
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  • WanEH
    ·2025-05-07
    I think those technology related company may continue to rise up. can buy and hold.
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  • ECLC
    ·2025-05-08
    Anything is possible when the world spins.
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  • AliceSam
    ·2025-05-07
    期待后续
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  • TheStrategist
    ·2025-05-07
    China vs USA
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