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大时代的刘青云

2021-09-15

$BIGG Digital Assets Inc.(BBKCF)$What happen to this stock....??!!!!! BC is picking up.... But it is going down??

大时代的刘青云

2021-08-27

$BIGG Digital Assets Inc.(BBKCF)$How come today BC related stock is climbing at around 8%.... Yet BBKCF is sliding.... WTH!!

大时代的刘青云

2021-07-20

$BIGG Digital Assets Inc.(BBKCF)$just keep buying....

大时代的刘青云

2021-06-09

$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$dead stock?

大时代的刘青云

2021-06-03

$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$can someone intro this to Reddit or WSB... ROFL

大时代的刘青云

2021-06-02

Power of Reddit

AMC Stock Is Surging Again. How to Make Sense of the Move.

大时代的刘青云

2021-06-01

$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$Anyone still buying in? Raise your hand!!

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-21

Flatten the curve

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大时代的刘青云

2021-05-21

Just another bold estimation where who will believe?

Why the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-20

This a a strong value one...

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大时代的刘青云

2021-05-20

Peeps.... Earn abit. Faster run... Covid has return..

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大时代的刘青云

2021-05-20

Hahaha.... Read, analyse then you choose to believe...

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大时代的刘青云

2021-05-18

To the ?

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大时代的刘青云

2021-05-14

$Pointerra(3DP.AU)$Put inside the fridge n lock the share...

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-13

Slided

Tech Wreck Goes Global - Taiwan Stocks Trounced In Biggest Crash In 54 Year History

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-07

$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$Why there is a consecutive dip? Anyone can enlighten?

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-05

$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$Just keep buying.... Let's whack somemore ppl!!!

大时代的刘青云

2021-05-03

$Pointerra(3DP.AU)$gg.com

大时代的刘青云

2021-04-30

$Skillz Inc(SKLZ)$dun know how many investor shed blood in this stock

大时代的刘青云

2021-04-30

$Pointerra(3DP.AU)$Can any kind soul share with me how come it dived so much?

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The industry essentially went belly up at the turn of the millennium. Regal Cinemas, for instance, declared bankruptcy in 2001.</p>\n<p>Back then, the industry had plenty of capacity because of a new theater design—stadium seating that gave a better view of the screen. That shift meant movie theater chains had to renovate or risk losing all their patrons to movie theaters that offered the better view. In the end, too many seats and not enough patrons meant the return on the stadium-seating investments never materialized.</p>\n<p>The upshot was consolidation. With fewer operators, the number of screens stabilized. Between 2002 and 2007, Regal Cinemas became a cash-generating machine because the stock was mispriced. The stock returned 21% a year on average. The S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average both returned less than 9% a year on average over the same period.</p>\n<p>In those days, Regal Cinema’s enterprise value about $5 billion, or about 50% of total U.S. box office sales. That’s far short of AMC today. Something new has to be different for AMC to be worth it.</p>\n<p>Maybe the movie theater business is going to go through another period of consolidation, which can usher in another golden age of returns. AMC’s Tuesday gains, in fact, were catalyzed by new capital raised so the company could go on the offensive, acquiring defunct chains. Monopolies, after all, can be good for stock returns.</p>\n<p>If AMC can increase market share and the U.S. box office sales can return to 2018 levels in a few years, total sales at might be $9 billion—$6 billion from tickets and $3 billion from concessions. Sales in 2018 amounted to $5.5 billion.</p>\n<p>Then, with better gross profit margins derived from larger scale, AMC might be able to generate $600 million in free cash flow annually, which puts the stock at about a 4% free cash flow yield. The S&amp;P 500 trades for about a 3% free cash flow yield. The numbers can work—if they’re stretched.</p>\n<p>There are problems with this scenario, though. There are lots of ifs and mights—and AMC has never generated cash flow like that in the past. Arriving at $600 million in free cash flow is more about justifying current valuations than predicting what is likely.</p>\n<p>Also, with mergers and acquisitions, AMC market shares might rise, but there are still competitors. Regal Cinemas is still out there, owned by Cineworld Holdings (CINE. London). So is Cinemark (CNK). There’s not a true monopoly.</p>\n<p>AMC and its peers have to deal with streaming, too. Windows for exclusive theater showings are shrinking. The pandemic has accelerated that. And if AMC gets too large and demanding for movie makers, the talent can always go to streaming faster, hurting box office sales.</p>\n<p>There is also the problem of the peer stocks. They aren’t trading like this is a brave new world for theaters. Cineworld stock is up 484% from its 52-week low, but shares are still off 72% from all-time highs. Cinemark shares are up 222% from their 52-week low. They are down 47% from their all-time high.</p>\n<p>AMC stock, again, is up almost 1,600% from its 52-week low and is down just 13% from its May all-time high.</p>\n<p>Wall Street just doesn’t see the potential either. Nine analysts cover the stock. The average analyst price target is about $5. Before the pandemic, the average analyst price target was $15. But there were fewer shares back then. The old target enterprise value was roughly $7 billion. It’s tough to get from $7 billion to $26 billion predicting better margins.</p>\n<p>Analysts do have positive free cash flow modeled, though–$13 million in 2022 and $90 million in 2023. 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How to Make Sense of the Move.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-02 17:54 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, that social media-fueled investor frenzy that has launched the likes of GameStop and BlackBerry into ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMC":"AMC院线"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1188552613","content_text":"AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, that social media-fueled investor frenzy that has launched the likes of GameStop and BlackBerry into speculative territory.\nBut it’s possible that traditional investors have missed a fundamental change in the movie theater business—and it wouldn’t be the first time.\nShares of AMC (ticker: AMC) surged 23% on Tuesday, closing at $32.04—just off an all-time high of $36.72 set in late May. That puts the movie-theater chain’s market capitalization at roughly $16 billion, more than 15 times what it was in 2018, a record-breaking year at the box office. Shares were up another 34%, to $42.92, in premarket trading Wednesday.\nEven if investors missed an inflection point, though, the math doesn’t add up. The reason might be that market cap isn’t the right measure. Maybe it’s enterprise value, which is essentially market cap and debt. AMC’s enterprise value is about $26 billion, compared with $6.2 billion or so at the end of 2018.\nAMC added debt during the pandemic as theaters in the country’s biggest cities were dark for months. And the numbers make it easy to understand why: The U.S. box office in 2020 generated about $2.1 billion in ticket sales, down 81% from the 2018 record of $11.9 billion.\nSo, it seems investors have been vexed by movie theater economics. But it wouldn’t be the first time. The industry essentially went belly up at the turn of the millennium. Regal Cinemas, for instance, declared bankruptcy in 2001.\nBack then, the industry had plenty of capacity because of a new theater design—stadium seating that gave a better view of the screen. That shift meant movie theater chains had to renovate or risk losing all their patrons to movie theaters that offered the better view. In the end, too many seats and not enough patrons meant the return on the stadium-seating investments never materialized.\nThe upshot was consolidation. With fewer operators, the number of screens stabilized. Between 2002 and 2007, Regal Cinemas became a cash-generating machine because the stock was mispriced. The stock returned 21% a year on average. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average both returned less than 9% a year on average over the same period.\nIn those days, Regal Cinema’s enterprise value about $5 billion, or about 50% of total U.S. box office sales. That’s far short of AMC today. Something new has to be different for AMC to be worth it.\nMaybe the movie theater business is going to go through another period of consolidation, which can usher in another golden age of returns. AMC’s Tuesday gains, in fact, were catalyzed by new capital raised so the company could go on the offensive, acquiring defunct chains. Monopolies, after all, can be good for stock returns.\nIf AMC can increase market share and the U.S. box office sales can return to 2018 levels in a few years, total sales at might be $9 billion—$6 billion from tickets and $3 billion from concessions. Sales in 2018 amounted to $5.5 billion.\nThen, with better gross profit margins derived from larger scale, AMC might be able to generate $600 million in free cash flow annually, which puts the stock at about a 4% free cash flow yield. The S&P 500 trades for about a 3% free cash flow yield. The numbers can work—if they’re stretched.\nThere are problems with this scenario, though. There are lots of ifs and mights—and AMC has never generated cash flow like that in the past. Arriving at $600 million in free cash flow is more about justifying current valuations than predicting what is likely.\nAlso, with mergers and acquisitions, AMC market shares might rise, but there are still competitors. Regal Cinemas is still out there, owned by Cineworld Holdings (CINE. London). So is Cinemark (CNK). There’s not a true monopoly.\nAMC and its peers have to deal with streaming, too. Windows for exclusive theater showings are shrinking. The pandemic has accelerated that. And if AMC gets too large and demanding for movie makers, the talent can always go to streaming faster, hurting box office sales.\nThere is also the problem of the peer stocks. They aren’t trading like this is a brave new world for theaters. Cineworld stock is up 484% from its 52-week low, but shares are still off 72% from all-time highs. Cinemark shares are up 222% from their 52-week low. They are down 47% from their all-time high.\nAMC stock, again, is up almost 1,600% from its 52-week low and is down just 13% from its May all-time high.\nWall Street just doesn’t see the potential either. Nine analysts cover the stock. The average analyst price target is about $5. Before the pandemic, the average analyst price target was $15. But there were fewer shares back then. The old target enterprise value was roughly $7 billion. It’s tough to get from $7 billion to $26 billion predicting better margins.\nAnalysts do have positive free cash flow modeled, though–$13 million in 2022 and $90 million in 2023. That’s a long way from $600 million.\nAnd that’s just another way of saying that AMC bulls are a long way from making the math work.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AMC":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2636,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":119600361,"gmtCreate":1622538629353,"gmtModify":1704185883028,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Anyone still buying in? Raise your hand!!&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Anyone still buying in? 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Raise your hand!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/119600361","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2031,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":139965361,"gmtCreate":1621585207453,"gmtModify":1704360082038,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Flatten the curve","listText":"Flatten the curve","text":"Flatten the curve","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/139965361","repostId":"2137972546","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2103,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":139966788,"gmtCreate":1621585077244,"gmtModify":1704360080068,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","listText":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","text":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/139966788","repostId":"1161150268","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1161150268","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1621565435,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1161150268?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-05-21 10:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1161150268","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks . Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be wor","content":"<p>It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.</p><p>That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted by Vincent Deluard, head of global macro strategy at investment firm StoneX. His argument isn’t just that certain large-cap growth companies are trading on the assumption their revenues will grow at improbably fast rates. He adds that even if a given company does grow at a fast-enough pace, it soon would be larger than the market as a whole. In that case “valuations are mathematically impossible.”</p><p>There are limits to growth, in other words. As John Maynard Keynes put it a century ago: trees don’t grow to the sky.</p><p>To illustrate, Deluard analyzed the 351 companies within the Russell 3000 index&nbsp;that trade for more than 10 times sales. That’s much higher than the market as a whole; the S&amp;P 500’s&nbsp;price-to-sales ratio is 3.0. Deluard generously assumed that these companies’ revenue will grow by a factor of 54 over the next 17 years —equivalent to 26% annualized. He further assumed that, at the end of those 17 years, their price-to-sales ratios would be 6.4-to-1.</p><p>Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks (Microsoft,Apple,Alphabet’s Google&nbsp;and Amazon.com). Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.</p><p>Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be worth in 2038 under his assumptions, Deluard found that 59 of them already have higher market caps. In other words, “the market currently expects that almost 60 companies will be more successful [over the next 17 years] than Microsoft, Apple, Google and Amazon [have been over the last 17].”</p><p>Given the&nbsp;increasingly “winner-take-all” U.S. economy, it is in fact most unlikely that there will be many MAGA-like stocks in 2038. After all, the four current MAGA stocks represent around 20% of the total market cap of the S&amp;P 500. These 59 emerging MAGA stocks’ combined market cap in 2038 would therefore be larger than the overall market under any realistic assumptions of the equity market’s performance over the next 17 years.</p><p><b>How realistic are Deluard’s assumptions?</b></p><p>Deluard’s assumptions are generous, but he himself does not think they are realistic, I hasten to add. His point is that, even with them, it’s hard to justify the valuations of many of today’s high-flying growth stocks.</p><p>One way he illustrates how unrealistic his assumptions are is to calculate how many years it will take the MAGA stocks to “grow into their valuations.” Take Microsoft, for example, which currently trades at a price-to-sales ratio (PSR) of nearly 12-to-1. Eventually, of course, the company’s PSR will converge with that of the overall market (currently with a PSR of 3.0), since otherwise the company would have to grow so fast as to become almost as large as the market itself (if not larger).</p><p>Deluard calculates the number of years it will take for this convergence to take place, even with the generous assumption that Microsoft’s revenue grows for the foreseeable future at the same pace it has for the last five years. Even if its stock price goes nowhere, he reports, this convergence will take 17 years.</p><p>The analogy Deluard draws is to the so-called Nifty Fifty stocks of the early 1970s. They were the high-flying blue-chip stocks that became so popular that their P/E ratios at the top of the bull market in late 1972 were, on average, double that of the overall market. Though their revenue continued to grow at a fast pace in subsequent years, their extreme overvaluation meant that their stock prices still went nowhere or declined for years thereafter.</p><p>Another analogy is to Cisco Systems&nbsp;stock at the top of the late 1990s internet bubble, when it briefly was the most valuable stock in the world. Since then the company’s sales have grown at more than twice the rate of the average S&amp;P 500 company. And yet, despite this impressive growth, the company’s stock today is well below where it stood then. Deluard believes that a similar fate faces not just the MAGA stocks, but also the U.S. market’s many other extremely overvalued growth stocks.</p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-05-21 10:50 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page><strong>MarketWatch</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","AMZN":"亚马逊",".DJI":"道琼斯","GOOGL":"谷歌A","MSFT":"微软",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","AAPL":"苹果","GOOG":"谷歌"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1161150268","content_text":"It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted by Vincent Deluard, head of global macro strategy at investment firm StoneX. His argument isn’t just that certain large-cap growth companies are trading on the assumption their revenues will grow at improbably fast rates. He adds that even if a given company does grow at a fast-enough pace, it soon would be larger than the market as a whole. In that case “valuations are mathematically impossible.”There are limits to growth, in other words. As John Maynard Keynes put it a century ago: trees don’t grow to the sky.To illustrate, Deluard analyzed the 351 companies within the Russell 3000 index that trade for more than 10 times sales. That’s much higher than the market as a whole; the S&P 500’s price-to-sales ratio is 3.0. Deluard generously assumed that these companies’ revenue will grow by a factor of 54 over the next 17 years —equivalent to 26% annualized. He further assumed that, at the end of those 17 years, their price-to-sales ratios would be 6.4-to-1.Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks (Microsoft,Apple,Alphabet’s Google and Amazon.com). Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be worth in 2038 under his assumptions, Deluard found that 59 of them already have higher market caps. In other words, “the market currently expects that almost 60 companies will be more successful [over the next 17 years] than Microsoft, Apple, Google and Amazon [have been over the last 17].”Given the increasingly “winner-take-all” U.S. economy, it is in fact most unlikely that there will be many MAGA-like stocks in 2038. After all, the four current MAGA stocks represent around 20% of the total market cap of the S&P 500. These 59 emerging MAGA stocks’ combined market cap in 2038 would therefore be larger than the overall market under any realistic assumptions of the equity market’s performance over the next 17 years.How realistic are Deluard’s assumptions?Deluard’s assumptions are generous, but he himself does not think they are realistic, I hasten to add. His point is that, even with them, it’s hard to justify the valuations of many of today’s high-flying growth stocks.One way he illustrates how unrealistic his assumptions are is to calculate how many years it will take the MAGA stocks to “grow into their valuations.” Take Microsoft, for example, which currently trades at a price-to-sales ratio (PSR) of nearly 12-to-1. Eventually, of course, the company’s PSR will converge with that of the overall market (currently with a PSR of 3.0), since otherwise the company would have to grow so fast as to become almost as large as the market itself (if not larger).Deluard calculates the number of years it will take for this convergence to take place, even with the generous assumption that Microsoft’s revenue grows for the foreseeable future at the same pace it has for the last five years. Even if its stock price goes nowhere, he reports, this convergence will take 17 years.The analogy Deluard draws is to the so-called Nifty Fifty stocks of the early 1970s. They were the high-flying blue-chip stocks that became so popular that their P/E ratios at the top of the bull market in late 1972 were, on average, double that of the overall market. Though their revenue continued to grow at a fast pace in subsequent years, their extreme overvaluation meant that their stock prices still went nowhere or declined for years thereafter.Another analogy is to Cisco Systems stock at the top of the late 1990s internet bubble, when it briefly was the most valuable stock in the world. Since then the company’s sales have grown at more than twice the rate of the average S&P 500 company. And yet, despite this impressive growth, the company’s stock today is well below where it stood then. Deluard believes that a similar fate faces not just the MAGA stocks, but also the U.S. market’s many other extremely overvalued growth stocks.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"GOOG":0.9,"MSFT":0.9,"GOOGL":0.9,".DJI":0.9,".SPX":0.9,".IXIC":0.9,"AAPL":0.9,"AMZN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2077,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":130165807,"gmtCreate":1621519541209,"gmtModify":1704358986798,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This a a strong value one...","listText":"This a a strong value one...","text":"This a a strong value one...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/130165807","repostId":"1105833464","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1536,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":130166431,"gmtCreate":1621519499123,"gmtModify":1704358984684,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Peeps.... 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For months, bull market skeptics around the world have warned that surging leverage is making equity markets riskier (e.g., US margin debt topped $822 billion by the end of March, up 72% year on year). And, as Bloomberg reports, on a smaller scale, the same happened in Taiwan.\nAmid global central bank-backed complacency, investors took on increasing amounts of leverage.\nThe result was a 46% expansion in margin debt this year to about NT$274 billion ($9.8 billion) two weeks ago, the highest since 2011.\nBy comparison, the Taiwan benchmark was up just 19% in that period, an indication thatpeople were taking out loans faster than stocks were appreciating.\n\n “Taiwan’s Taiex fell about 8% at one point, and with TSMC, which has the biggest weighting on the measure, slumping,\n the chips sector in Japan is being impacted,” said Ryuta Otsuka, a strategist at Toyo Securities in Tokyo.\n “For now, I’m not seeing a trigger that could reverse the drop.”\n\nThere were also some fundamentals behind the collapse includingfears over a reacceleration in COVID-19 cases.\n\nSource: Bloomberg\nThis has sparked a rapid escalation of restrictions potentially on the island where almost no one is vaccinated, as Liberty Times reports,Taiwan may elevate its alert level further today with the government likely to ban indoor gatherings of over five people and outdoor gatherings of more than 10 people, and it mayrequest non-essential businesses to close their doors.\nGains on Taiex extended this year as the pandemic created a shortage of chips, with the index rising for seven straight months through April, until the reality of inflationary threats and over-leverage hit home in a big way last night.\n\n“Margin trading boosted the Taiex over the past few months, which may add to declines if they face margin calls,”said MasterLink Securities Investment Advisory President Paul Cheng.\n\nAnd as the wave of deleveraging rolls back around the world, Nasdaq futures are giving back yesterday's dead-cat-bounce gains...\n\nAs the Taiex tumbled on Tuesday, the level of margin debt fell by NT$12.6 billion, the most since October 2018.That suggests traders faced margin calls by brokers to cover losses in their stock accounts... will we see the same in the US today?","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":835,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":104587374,"gmtCreate":1620398200698,"gmtModify":1704343167516,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Why there is a consecutive dip? 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How to Make Sense of the Move.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1188552613","media":"Barrons","summary":"AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, th","content":"<p>AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, that social media-fueled investor frenzy that has launched the likes of&nbsp;GameStop&nbsp;and&nbsp;BlackBerry&nbsp;into speculative territory.</p>\n<p>But it’s possible that traditional investors have missed a fundamental change in the movie theater business—and it wouldn’t be the first time.</p>\n<p>Shares of AMC (ticker: AMC) surged 23% on Tuesday, closing at $32.04—just off an all-time high of $36.72 set in late May. That puts the movie-theater chain’s market capitalization at roughly $16 billion, more than 15 times what it was in 2018, a record-breaking year at the box office.&nbsp;Shares were up another 34%, to $42.92, in premarket trading Wednesday.</p>\n<p>Even if investors missed an inflection point, though, the math doesn’t add up. The reason might be that market cap isn’t the right measure. Maybe it’s enterprise value, which is essentially market cap and debt. AMC’s enterprise value is about $26 billion, compared with $6.2 billion or so at the end of 2018.</p>\n<p>AMC added debt during the pandemic as theaters in the country’s biggest cities were dark for months. And the numbers make it easy to understand why: The U.S. box office in 2020 generated about $2.1 billion in ticket sales, down 81% from the 2018 record of $11.9 billion.</p>\n<p>So, it seems investors have been vexed by movie theater economics. But it wouldn’t be the first time. The industry essentially went belly up at the turn of the millennium. Regal Cinemas, for instance, declared bankruptcy in 2001.</p>\n<p>Back then, the industry had plenty of capacity because of a new theater design—stadium seating that gave a better view of the screen. That shift meant movie theater chains had to renovate or risk losing all their patrons to movie theaters that offered the better view. In the end, too many seats and not enough patrons meant the return on the stadium-seating investments never materialized.</p>\n<p>The upshot was consolidation. With fewer operators, the number of screens stabilized. Between 2002 and 2007, Regal Cinemas became a cash-generating machine because the stock was mispriced. The stock returned 21% a year on average. The S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average both returned less than 9% a year on average over the same period.</p>\n<p>In those days, Regal Cinema’s enterprise value about $5 billion, or about 50% of total U.S. box office sales. That’s far short of AMC today. Something new has to be different for AMC to be worth it.</p>\n<p>Maybe the movie theater business is going to go through another period of consolidation, which can usher in another golden age of returns. AMC’s Tuesday gains, in fact, were catalyzed by new capital raised so the company could go on the offensive, acquiring defunct chains. Monopolies, after all, can be good for stock returns.</p>\n<p>If AMC can increase market share and the U.S. box office sales can return to 2018 levels in a few years, total sales at might be $9 billion—$6 billion from tickets and $3 billion from concessions. Sales in 2018 amounted to $5.5 billion.</p>\n<p>Then, with better gross profit margins derived from larger scale, AMC might be able to generate $600 million in free cash flow annually, which puts the stock at about a 4% free cash flow yield. The S&amp;P 500 trades for about a 3% free cash flow yield. The numbers can work—if they’re stretched.</p>\n<p>There are problems with this scenario, though. There are lots of ifs and mights—and AMC has never generated cash flow like that in the past. Arriving at $600 million in free cash flow is more about justifying current valuations than predicting what is likely.</p>\n<p>Also, with mergers and acquisitions, AMC market shares might rise, but there are still competitors. Regal Cinemas is still out there, owned by Cineworld Holdings (CINE. London). So is Cinemark (CNK). There’s not a true monopoly.</p>\n<p>AMC and its peers have to deal with streaming, too. Windows for exclusive theater showings are shrinking. The pandemic has accelerated that. And if AMC gets too large and demanding for movie makers, the talent can always go to streaming faster, hurting box office sales.</p>\n<p>There is also the problem of the peer stocks. They aren’t trading like this is a brave new world for theaters. Cineworld stock is up 484% from its 52-week low, but shares are still off 72% from all-time highs. Cinemark shares are up 222% from their 52-week low. They are down 47% from their all-time high.</p>\n<p>AMC stock, again, is up almost 1,600% from its 52-week low and is down just 13% from its May all-time high.</p>\n<p>Wall Street just doesn’t see the potential either. Nine analysts cover the stock. The average analyst price target is about $5. Before the pandemic, the average analyst price target was $15. But there were fewer shares back then. The old target enterprise value was roughly $7 billion. It’s tough to get from $7 billion to $26 billion predicting better margins.</p>\n<p>Analysts do have positive free cash flow modeled, though–$13 million in 2022 and $90 million in 2023. 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How to Make Sense of the Move.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-02 17:54 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, that social media-fueled investor frenzy that has launched the likes of GameStop and BlackBerry into ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMC":"AMC院线"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amc-rockets-higher-is-it-worth-it-maybe-51622594691?mod=hp_LEAD_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1188552613","content_text":"AMC Entertainment‘s skyrocketing stock price would be easy to dismiss as just meme-trade madness, that social media-fueled investor frenzy that has launched the likes of GameStop and BlackBerry into speculative territory.\nBut it’s possible that traditional investors have missed a fundamental change in the movie theater business—and it wouldn’t be the first time.\nShares of AMC (ticker: AMC) surged 23% on Tuesday, closing at $32.04—just off an all-time high of $36.72 set in late May. That puts the movie-theater chain’s market capitalization at roughly $16 billion, more than 15 times what it was in 2018, a record-breaking year at the box office. Shares were up another 34%, to $42.92, in premarket trading Wednesday.\nEven if investors missed an inflection point, though, the math doesn’t add up. The reason might be that market cap isn’t the right measure. Maybe it’s enterprise value, which is essentially market cap and debt. AMC’s enterprise value is about $26 billion, compared with $6.2 billion or so at the end of 2018.\nAMC added debt during the pandemic as theaters in the country’s biggest cities were dark for months. And the numbers make it easy to understand why: The U.S. box office in 2020 generated about $2.1 billion in ticket sales, down 81% from the 2018 record of $11.9 billion.\nSo, it seems investors have been vexed by movie theater economics. But it wouldn’t be the first time. The industry essentially went belly up at the turn of the millennium. Regal Cinemas, for instance, declared bankruptcy in 2001.\nBack then, the industry had plenty of capacity because of a new theater design—stadium seating that gave a better view of the screen. That shift meant movie theater chains had to renovate or risk losing all their patrons to movie theaters that offered the better view. In the end, too many seats and not enough patrons meant the return on the stadium-seating investments never materialized.\nThe upshot was consolidation. With fewer operators, the number of screens stabilized. Between 2002 and 2007, Regal Cinemas became a cash-generating machine because the stock was mispriced. The stock returned 21% a year on average. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average both returned less than 9% a year on average over the same period.\nIn those days, Regal Cinema’s enterprise value about $5 billion, or about 50% of total U.S. box office sales. That’s far short of AMC today. Something new has to be different for AMC to be worth it.\nMaybe the movie theater business is going to go through another period of consolidation, which can usher in another golden age of returns. AMC’s Tuesday gains, in fact, were catalyzed by new capital raised so the company could go on the offensive, acquiring defunct chains. Monopolies, after all, can be good for stock returns.\nIf AMC can increase market share and the U.S. box office sales can return to 2018 levels in a few years, total sales at might be $9 billion—$6 billion from tickets and $3 billion from concessions. Sales in 2018 amounted to $5.5 billion.\nThen, with better gross profit margins derived from larger scale, AMC might be able to generate $600 million in free cash flow annually, which puts the stock at about a 4% free cash flow yield. The S&P 500 trades for about a 3% free cash flow yield. The numbers can work—if they’re stretched.\nThere are problems with this scenario, though. There are lots of ifs and mights—and AMC has never generated cash flow like that in the past. Arriving at $600 million in free cash flow is more about justifying current valuations than predicting what is likely.\nAlso, with mergers and acquisitions, AMC market shares might rise, but there are still competitors. Regal Cinemas is still out there, owned by Cineworld Holdings (CINE. London). So is Cinemark (CNK). There’s not a true monopoly.\nAMC and its peers have to deal with streaming, too. Windows for exclusive theater showings are shrinking. The pandemic has accelerated that. And if AMC gets too large and demanding for movie makers, the talent can always go to streaming faster, hurting box office sales.\nThere is also the problem of the peer stocks. They aren’t trading like this is a brave new world for theaters. Cineworld stock is up 484% from its 52-week low, but shares are still off 72% from all-time highs. Cinemark shares are up 222% from their 52-week low. They are down 47% from their all-time high.\nAMC stock, again, is up almost 1,600% from its 52-week low and is down just 13% from its May all-time high.\nWall Street just doesn’t see the potential either. Nine analysts cover the stock. The average analyst price target is about $5. Before the pandemic, the average analyst price target was $15. But there were fewer shares back then. The old target enterprise value was roughly $7 billion. It’s tough to get from $7 billion to $26 billion predicting better margins.\nAnalysts do have positive free cash flow modeled, though–$13 million in 2022 and $90 million in 2023. That’s a long way from $600 million.\nAnd that’s just another way of saying that AMC bulls are a long way from making the math work.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AMC":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2636,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":378178025,"gmtCreate":1619013395867,"gmtModify":1704718305987,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Join the level of MARA and RIOT!!! GO GO GO!!","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Join the level of MARA and RIOT!!! 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For months, bull market skeptics around the world have warned that surging leverage is making equity markets riskier (e.g., US margin debt topped $822 billion by the end of March, up 72% year on year). And, as Bloomberg reports, on a smaller scale, the same happened in Taiwan.</p>\n<p><b>Amid global central bank-backed complacency, investors took on increasing amounts of leverage.</b></p>\n<p>The result was a 46% expansion in&nbsp;margin debt&nbsp;this year to about NT$274 billion ($9.8 billion) two weeks ago, the highest since 2011.</p>\n<p>By comparison, the Taiwan benchmark was up just 19% in that period, an indication that<b>people were taking out loans faster than stocks were appreciating</b>.</p>\n<blockquote>\n “Taiwan’s Taiex fell about 8% at one point, and with TSMC, which has the biggest weighting on the measure, slumping,\n <b>the chips sector in Japan is being impacted</b>,” said Ryuta Otsuka, a strategist at Toyo Securities in Tokyo.\n <b>“For now, I’m not seeing a trigger that could reverse the drop.”</b>\n</blockquote>\n<p>There were also some fundamentals behind the collapse including<b>fears over a reacceleration in COVID-19 cases</b>.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c77162e8ef51da4871b818e262fd53b\" tg-width=\"936\" tg-height=\"494\"></p>\n<p><i>Source: Bloomberg</i></p>\n<p>This has sparked a rapid escalation of restrictions potentially on the island where almost no one is vaccinated, as Liberty Times reports,<b>Taiwan may elevate its alert level further today with the government likely to ban indoor gatherings of over five people and outdoor gatherings of more than 10 people</b>, and it may<b>request non-essential businesses to close their doors</b>.</p>\n<p>Gains on Taiex extended this year as the pandemic created a shortage of chips, with the index rising for seven straight months through April, until the reality of inflationary threats and over-leverage hit home in a big way last night.</p>\n<blockquote>\n <i><b>“Margin trading boosted the Taiex over the past few months, which may add to declines if they face margin calls,”</b></i>said MasterLink Securities Investment Advisory President Paul Cheng.\n</blockquote>\n<p>And as the wave of deleveraging rolls back around the world, Nasdaq futures are giving back yesterday's dead-cat-bounce gains...</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc8f07bb57012a5432267aebb1faf55c\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"777\"></p>\n<p>As the Taiex tumbled on Tuesday, the level of margin debt fell by NT$12.6 billion, the most since October 2018.<b>That suggests traders faced margin calls by brokers to cover losses in their stock accounts... will we see the same in the US today?</b></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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For months, bull market skeptics around the world have warned that surging leverage is making equity markets riskier (e.g., US margin debt topped $822 billion by the end of March, up 72% year on year). And, as Bloomberg reports, on a smaller scale, the same happened in Taiwan.\nAmid global central bank-backed complacency, investors took on increasing amounts of leverage.\nThe result was a 46% expansion in margin debt this year to about NT$274 billion ($9.8 billion) two weeks ago, the highest since 2011.\nBy comparison, the Taiwan benchmark was up just 19% in that period, an indication thatpeople were taking out loans faster than stocks were appreciating.\n\n “Taiwan’s Taiex fell about 8% at one point, and with TSMC, which has the biggest weighting on the measure, slumping,\n the chips sector in Japan is being impacted,” said Ryuta Otsuka, a strategist at Toyo Securities in Tokyo.\n “For now, I’m not seeing a trigger that could reverse the drop.”\n\nThere were also some fundamentals behind the collapse includingfears over a reacceleration in COVID-19 cases.\n\nSource: Bloomberg\nThis has sparked a rapid escalation of restrictions potentially on the island where almost no one is vaccinated, as Liberty Times reports,Taiwan may elevate its alert level further today with the government likely to ban indoor gatherings of over five people and outdoor gatherings of more than 10 people, and it mayrequest non-essential businesses to close their doors.\nGains on Taiex extended this year as the pandemic created a shortage of chips, with the index rising for seven straight months through April, until the reality of inflationary threats and over-leverage hit home in a big way last night.\n\n“Margin trading boosted the Taiex over the past few months, which may add to declines if they face margin calls,”said MasterLink Securities Investment Advisory President Paul Cheng.\n\nAnd as the wave of deleveraging rolls back around the world, Nasdaq futures are giving back yesterday's dead-cat-bounce gains...\n\nAs the Taiex tumbled on Tuesday, the level of margin debt fell by NT$12.6 billion, the most since October 2018.That suggests traders faced margin calls by brokers to cover losses in their stock accounts... will we see the same in the US today?","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":835,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":109246586,"gmtCreate":1619702700645,"gmtModify":1704728265298,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BBKCF\">$Big Blockchain Intelligence Group Inc.(BBKCF)$</a>Just buy..... 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Read, analyse then you choose to believe...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/130163427","repostId":"2136260319","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":718,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":355946996,"gmtCreate":1617026129015,"gmtModify":1704801018398,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Niase","listText":"Niase","text":"Niase","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/355946996","repostId":"1196597601","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":533,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":139965361,"gmtCreate":1621585207453,"gmtModify":1704360082038,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Flatten the curve","listText":"Flatten the curve","text":"Flatten the curve","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/139965361","repostId":"2137972546","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2103,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":139966788,"gmtCreate":1621585077244,"gmtModify":1704360080068,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","listText":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","text":"Just another bold estimation where who will believe?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/139966788","repostId":"1161150268","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1161150268","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1621565435,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1161150268?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-05-21 10:50","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1161150268","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks . Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be wor","content":"<p>It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.</p><p>That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted by Vincent Deluard, head of global macro strategy at investment firm StoneX. His argument isn’t just that certain large-cap growth companies are trading on the assumption their revenues will grow at improbably fast rates. He adds that even if a given company does grow at a fast-enough pace, it soon would be larger than the market as a whole. In that case “valuations are mathematically impossible.”</p><p>There are limits to growth, in other words. As John Maynard Keynes put it a century ago: trees don’t grow to the sky.</p><p>To illustrate, Deluard analyzed the 351 companies within the Russell 3000 index&nbsp;that trade for more than 10 times sales. That’s much higher than the market as a whole; the S&amp;P 500’s&nbsp;price-to-sales ratio is 3.0. Deluard generously assumed that these companies’ revenue will grow by a factor of 54 over the next 17 years —equivalent to 26% annualized. He further assumed that, at the end of those 17 years, their price-to-sales ratios would be 6.4-to-1.</p><p>Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks (Microsoft,Apple,Alphabet’s Google&nbsp;and Amazon.com). Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.</p><p>Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be worth in 2038 under his assumptions, Deluard found that 59 of them already have higher market caps. In other words, “the market currently expects that almost 60 companies will be more successful [over the next 17 years] than Microsoft, Apple, Google and Amazon [have been over the last 17].”</p><p>Given the&nbsp;increasingly “winner-take-all” U.S. economy, it is in fact most unlikely that there will be many MAGA-like stocks in 2038. After all, the four current MAGA stocks represent around 20% of the total market cap of the S&amp;P 500. These 59 emerging MAGA stocks’ combined market cap in 2038 would therefore be larger than the overall market under any realistic assumptions of the equity market’s performance over the next 17 years.</p><p><b>How realistic are Deluard’s assumptions?</b></p><p>Deluard’s assumptions are generous, but he himself does not think they are realistic, I hasten to add. His point is that, even with them, it’s hard to justify the valuations of many of today’s high-flying growth stocks.</p><p>One way he illustrates how unrealistic his assumptions are is to calculate how many years it will take the MAGA stocks to “grow into their valuations.” Take Microsoft, for example, which currently trades at a price-to-sales ratio (PSR) of nearly 12-to-1. Eventually, of course, the company’s PSR will converge with that of the overall market (currently with a PSR of 3.0), since otherwise the company would have to grow so fast as to become almost as large as the market itself (if not larger).</p><p>Deluard calculates the number of years it will take for this convergence to take place, even with the generous assumption that Microsoft’s revenue grows for the foreseeable future at the same pace it has for the last five years. Even if its stock price goes nowhere, he reports, this convergence will take 17 years.</p><p>The analogy Deluard draws is to the so-called Nifty Fifty stocks of the early 1970s. They were the high-flying blue-chip stocks that became so popular that their P/E ratios at the top of the bull market in late 1972 were, on average, double that of the overall market. Though their revenue continued to grow at a fast pace in subsequent years, their extreme overvaluation meant that their stock prices still went nowhere or declined for years thereafter.</p><p>Another analogy is to Cisco Systems&nbsp;stock at the top of the late 1990s internet bubble, when it briefly was the most valuable stock in the world. Since then the company’s sales have grown at more than twice the rate of the average S&amp;P 500 company. And yet, despite this impressive growth, the company’s stock today is well below where it stood then. Deluard believes that a similar fate faces not just the MAGA stocks, but also the U.S. market’s many other extremely overvalued growth stocks.</p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the future for Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and other pricey growth stocks isn’t so bright\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-05-21 10:50 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page><strong>MarketWatch</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page\">Source Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","AMZN":"亚马逊",".DJI":"道琼斯","GOOGL":"谷歌A","MSFT":"微软",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","AAPL":"苹果","GOOG":"谷歌"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-future-for-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-and-other-pricey-growth-stocks-isnt-so-bright-11621462054?mod=home-page","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1161150268","content_text":"It will be virtually impossible for some of the U.S. stock market’s largest companies to grow fast enough to justify their current valuations.That’s the conclusion reached by a recent study conducted by Vincent Deluard, head of global macro strategy at investment firm StoneX. His argument isn’t just that certain large-cap growth companies are trading on the assumption their revenues will grow at improbably fast rates. He adds that even if a given company does grow at a fast-enough pace, it soon would be larger than the market as a whole. In that case “valuations are mathematically impossible.”There are limits to growth, in other words. As John Maynard Keynes put it a century ago: trees don’t grow to the sky.To illustrate, Deluard analyzed the 351 companies within the Russell 3000 index that trade for more than 10 times sales. That’s much higher than the market as a whole; the S&P 500’s price-to-sales ratio is 3.0. Deluard generously assumed that these companies’ revenue will grow by a factor of 54 over the next 17 years —equivalent to 26% annualized. He further assumed that, at the end of those 17 years, their price-to-sales ratios would be 6.4-to-1.Deluard used these extremely generous assumptions because they apply to the so-called MAGA stocks (Microsoft,Apple,Alphabet’s Google and Amazon.com). Those four companies’ revenues have grown at a 26% annualized pace, on average, over the past 17 years, and their average current price-to-sales ratio is 6.4.Using a discount rate of 10% to calculate the present value of what these 351 companies would be worth in 2038 under his assumptions, Deluard found that 59 of them already have higher market caps. In other words, “the market currently expects that almost 60 companies will be more successful [over the next 17 years] than Microsoft, Apple, Google and Amazon [have been over the last 17].”Given the increasingly “winner-take-all” U.S. economy, it is in fact most unlikely that there will be many MAGA-like stocks in 2038. After all, the four current MAGA stocks represent around 20% of the total market cap of the S&P 500. These 59 emerging MAGA stocks’ combined market cap in 2038 would therefore be larger than the overall market under any realistic assumptions of the equity market’s performance over the next 17 years.How realistic are Deluard’s assumptions?Deluard’s assumptions are generous, but he himself does not think they are realistic, I hasten to add. His point is that, even with them, it’s hard to justify the valuations of many of today’s high-flying growth stocks.One way he illustrates how unrealistic his assumptions are is to calculate how many years it will take the MAGA stocks to “grow into their valuations.” Take Microsoft, for example, which currently trades at a price-to-sales ratio (PSR) of nearly 12-to-1. Eventually, of course, the company’s PSR will converge with that of the overall market (currently with a PSR of 3.0), since otherwise the company would have to grow so fast as to become almost as large as the market itself (if not larger).Deluard calculates the number of years it will take for this convergence to take place, even with the generous assumption that Microsoft’s revenue grows for the foreseeable future at the same pace it has for the last five years. Even if its stock price goes nowhere, he reports, this convergence will take 17 years.The analogy Deluard draws is to the so-called Nifty Fifty stocks of the early 1970s. They were the high-flying blue-chip stocks that became so popular that their P/E ratios at the top of the bull market in late 1972 were, on average, double that of the overall market. Though their revenue continued to grow at a fast pace in subsequent years, their extreme overvaluation meant that their stock prices still went nowhere or declined for years thereafter.Another analogy is to Cisco Systems stock at the top of the late 1990s internet bubble, when it briefly was the most valuable stock in the world. Since then the company’s sales have grown at more than twice the rate of the average S&P 500 company. And yet, despite this impressive growth, the company’s stock today is well below where it stood then. Deluard believes that a similar fate faces not just the MAGA stocks, but also the U.S. market’s many other extremely overvalued growth stocks.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"GOOG":0.9,"MSFT":0.9,"GOOGL":0.9,".DJI":0.9,".SPX":0.9,".IXIC":0.9,"AAPL":0.9,"AMZN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2077,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":130165807,"gmtCreate":1621519541209,"gmtModify":1704358986798,"author":{"id":"3573121978215252","authorId":"3573121978215252","name":"大时代的刘青云","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a6d9f5db4cc02ec3ab0d48cb2bba6fbf","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3573121978215252","idStr":"3573121978215252"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"This a a strong value one...","listText":"This a a strong value one...","text":"This a a strong value one...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/130165807","repostId":"1105833464","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1536,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}